In any survival scenario at the very onset of a situation it is you against the situation, natural or man made. Depending on the situation at hand, you may want to bug in. I cannot think of too many situations in a suburban survival situation where I would bug in, except for a very bad winter situation here in the northeast. However, if the situation warrants you bugging in it may be a simple solution. However, if the situation warrants you bugging out and pulling out one of several plans of execution to get the heck out of Dodge, well, what to do and with whom? Before I joined the Meetup group, I know it was just me. After, I think it might still be just me. Not because there are un-trusting relationships. Honestly, I think everyone in the group that has been there once or more than once has been skeptical of everyone else they have met, a little bit. I know I have. I’ll open up, but I will not open up all the way until I get to know you and your intentions.
That said, in suburban and urban survival situations, alone or with a team/group of like minded individuals, there will be people, refugees, and locusts all around. There may be confusion, people milling around, LEOs, etc. all over trying to keep the peace. If bugging out in a vehicle or on foot, I would think staying calm and collected would be a primary goal of you and/or your team. Other traits with or without a team that I think might be important might be persuasion and barter (an area I have not given as much thought as I would like). Another trait would be trust. How quickly could you gain the trust of someone during or after a SHTF situation? I am not sure it would be easy, and I am not sure it would be hard, but you and your group would have to be careful not to be fooled by those whose trust you are trying to gain.
I guess my point here is that depending on the SHTF event may depend on whether or not you may need a team to coordinate with. I have been personally obsessing over whether or not I require a team to work and coordinate with. I have a lone wolf mentality, but am smart enough to know that I do not know everything and that I cannot be technically secure on my own if I had to be. There are just TOO MANY people where I live and on my way to my BOL. Conversely, I think that people here would stick to the main and back roads looting and foraging for man made goods and if I could make it to the forest, I would be safer there if bugging out to my rendezvous point or BOL. But, in a former post (I forget which one) I identified that I realized that I do not think I would be the only one in the forest or on the trails getting to a BOL. In fact if enough people have read Scott William’s book Bug Out, many of the trails I would be following would be full of people who are at least temporarily in their own BOL’s, unless of course it is winter, then who knows. I know that several of the trails on foot I would take can be full of snow, deep snow, and with quickly changing weather patterns. Not something I would be looking forward to…
I am not sure I have not just been rambling here. I am tired and fighting a cold. I was thinking about the Meetup group I belong to, and the spotted attendance that I have seen there. There have been some experienced preppers that I believe have thought the group has been a bit rudimentary for them. And, of course I thought they were a perfect fit for the group because of their experience.
Oh well, the student continues to learn either way…
A ramble, but a good one nonetheless! I think hooking up with like-minded people is great, but I (me)would plan under the assumption that I wouldn’t be able to link up with them in a crisis. Back to lone wolf mode.
I think its important to get the feel for some of your neighbors. While I haven’t spoken about emergency preparations, I do have a few stand-up guys nearby that I think would be inclined to work together.
An excellent commentary!
Having a group to depend on is probably the hardest thing. Most groups are based (at least in part) on family relationships. Trying to bring together a group of otherwise strangers with all the challenges you mention (trust, organization, like-mindedness etc) is a daunting task. There are a whole host of pros and cons I’m not going to get into now.
Suffice to say I would be very very cautious about joining a group or inviting someone to form a group with you or join a group you have established. Even among family.
Hopefully one day you can find a special-someone who shares your concerns and POV and together be a group.
ps- One other thought on joining a group: LEOs, most notably DHS, have probably already labeled survival groups as ‘high risk’ persons in the event of an emergency. Through no fault of your own you may find your name on a list simply by association. Better to fly under the radar.
Yeah, that’s ironic. The people who will likely cause the least problems for society in such an event, are the ones most noticed by the Man in ‘normal’ times!
I think its great to have like-minded people to bounce ideas off of, but groups are tough to do for practical reasons.
I think that a group of people will stand a better chance than a single person will in a survival situation.
Alan — agreed, sir. The issue is connecting with the right people that do not thing you are crazy…